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Europes last chance

I don't know.

The moat doesn't seem to exist. Probably safer to stay out of the race for now.


Stay out of the race sounds insane when AI is, and will be, a common commodity. China is getting great bang for their buck on AI training, why not the same for Europe?

I’m still looking for no-moatists to logically explain why there is no moat in SOTA LLMS.

That paper released by a lone Google employee 3 years ago still misguiding people it seems.


The vast majority of people simply don't need SOTA models. I run most of my programming on a single 7900 XTX with Qwen 3.8 27b. I'm more interested in scaling out to run more instances of the model in parallel, than I am in scaling up to better models.

My reasoning is that we have seen multiple small labs come out of nowhere and create impressive models.

Impressive doesn't mean sustainable.

We're also seeing behemoths like Google and Meta both fail to keep up with OpenAI and Anthropic. Microsoft has given up on SOTA training. Loads of once promising LLM training companies are no longer relevant at the SOTA stage such as Cohere, Mistral.

I've said this countless times but SOTA LLM market looks like a classic monopoly/duopoly market over time. Each generation requires magnitudes more resources to train and you can only compete if you've made enough money on your previous generation.


On the contrary, small efficient models using recent improvements should be more sustainable than huge frontier models that require billions and years to train

Small efficient models are commodities.

"Impressive doesn't mean sustainable."

The frontier labs at the current rate are also not sustainable.

You make some incredibly stupid assumptions - like assuming revenue growth rate of Anthropic and OAI will continue on.

Elon-Musk type stuff. lmfao.


Why is it not sustainable when Anthropic has already had a profitable quarter?

It's pretty easy to use accounting wizardry to have one profitable quarter.

So what makes their AI business fundamentally unsustainable?

The obvious draw-down on resources being used by companies following the token price hikes?

The fact that in the testimonials both frontier labs quote the same company (who I'm led to believe is still tokenmaxxing).

The fact that we've not seen actual productivity benefits or new products resulting from people outside the companies using it and a lot of things that in most businesses would result in a lot of investor skepticism and concern.

The fervent development and focus on 'the next big thing'.


"Probably safer to stay out of the race for now."

What kind of attitude is that?


On the contrary, Europe needs a wider AI ecosystem and not rely on just one company

I've been thinking a lot on authority. Someone doing the exact same output but with different credentials.

It means the world, you see taste makers based on their legacy and previous actions.

Never in time have there been a thinner line between average and genius.


yep its the cold hard truth but at the same time alot of those people earned it so complaining makes you just sound bitter or jaded.

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