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I worked at HP in 2015 during it's split into Inc and HPE.

I then worked at FireEye during it's split.

Fun times.


My first tech job was at HP, in 2015, started there just in time work and live through that split. That was a smoother one from what I hear but it was not a fun job to have at the time

It is. Code snippets in the article are JavaScript as well, while only ever mentioning Java in the article

Speak for yourself, I voted for exactly these policies.

Thank you for posting. I'm being sincere.

I think it is helpful to remind folk that these policies are not universally hated. Indeed a majority of voters voted specifically for them, and they were explicitly laid out.

This is democracy in action. The majority (of those who care enough at all) get to rule over the minority (and the apathetic). Obviously not all actions will be universally loved, but no govt action can ever be universally loved.


> This is democracy in action. The majority (of those who care enough at all) get to rule over the minority (and the apathetic).

I've always been confused about how "democracy" is good, but "tyranny of the majority" is bad.


Well, for one you're not supposed to use a majority vote to abolish democracy, or mess with unalienable rights. You can think of it as "democracy with precommitment".

In other words, it's not democracy, it's a democratic republic. The democracy is constrained by the constitution.

Its also helpful to remind folk about why someone would hold this position.

The largest reason US got to where it was at least in the world economy stage was because of the visa program. It was the country everyone wanted to move to, because you can apply your skills, make money, start a business, with very little restriction comparatively, buy a house, and live your dream life.

The more people wanna work, the more opportunities there are for work. Any time money changes hands, like in salary for work, this grows the economy, which further creates new jobs.

If someone is for this type of restricted immigration, then you should have a clear cut position on why you think things being more expensive, less available, and overall lower economic activity (which affects things like one being able to get a mortgate or other loan, and so on) is generally better for the country.

Because if they don't have those reasons, or have ones that are not rooted in reality than the position comes from xenophobia and racism in 99% of the cases.


Countries are not merely economic zones..! While I don't even agree with you (skilled immigrants are very different from unskilled), even if I did, anti immigration sentiment is largely about culture. I would prefer to live in my own culture than to be slightly richer in someone else's culture.

Yeah thats called xenophobia.

It be valid point if you cound point to a set of traditions and beliefs that defines what American culture is, but modern American culture is literally an average over contributions from different cultures due to all the historic immigration.


You are a fish unaware of the water. America doesn't have a culture? If I move from America to India or Japan or Brazil I will not experience a cultural difference? This is an asinine statement. Orange is an average over red and yellow, and it's certainly not green. I refuse to be abashed of liking my culture more than some other ones.

He's not saying the US doesn't have a culture. He's saying the US is large and diverse and has multiple cultures. Thus trying to define "American culture" is difficult.

The point is valid, but perhaps not relevant. Broadly, yes, Americans are easy to spot abroad. Attitude, behavior etc are all part of culture.

Yes, an American from NY and one from Alabama will have massive differences, but culture (anywhere) doesn't mean that people are all the same.

Deep down, if you substitute "culture" for "race" in most (not all) conversations you get a much closer understanding of the real problem. For example the first lady is an immigrant, but clearly the right kind.


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Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes.

Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


Im sorry, but if you think that someone being effectively racist in a nice way is somehow better than being up front and calling them out for their belief, you are beyond lost. People like you deserve Trump. Youll ride your high horse of morality of being nice to everyone straight to your grave.

Please spare us the sermonizing and personal vitriol, thanks. I posted the same reply to the other commenter. My role here is to uphold the guidelines, not to adjudicate on the relative merits of arguments in a fundamentally toxic debate. This place only continues to exist because we have guidelines and uphold them daily, and because enough other people bother to be respectful in the way they participate here. If you’re not able to make your points without personal attacks, this is not the place for you.

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I’m as concerned about economic collapse as anyone. We’re not so delusional as to think we can fix the hardest problems in the world by writing assholish comments to each other on what is a nerd message board. This is a site for people who build things, and for people who are are interested in discussing new approaches to difficult problems. It’s not for clobbering each other over the head with ideas that people have been clobbering each other over the head with for decades. Stop trashing the guidelines and our efforts to uphold them; they are the entire reason this continues to be a place where people come to discuss difficult topics after nearly two decades. Please go somewhere else if this is the best you have to offer. This is a place for people who have high standards of themselves.

In the US, anti-immigrant sentiment is often the highest in regions with relatively few immigrants, far away from the border. The less that immigrants are part of peoples daily lives, the more people seem to fear for their "culture".

Presuming to have any real agency over the evolution of human culture also seems misguided. Culture is like a river, in that "no man ever steps into the same one twice". It's constantly changing in unpredictable ways, from generation to generation or even within generations, with or without immigration. That goes for the cultures of immigrants also.


The more people stand to lose, the more they fear losing it? shocking. (I don't even think that's true. Southern border states are a lot more concerned with illegal crossings than anywhere else. People who have to live near ethnic ghettos have a bigger problem with them than the coastal elites pushing for it. Etc)

Pretending that importing millions of foreigners will not affect the culture whatsoever is just a dumb or disingenuous argument, sorry. We already see a microcosm of it with Indian tech workers, having constant scandals about only hiring other Indians of their caste, and with the southern border states having dual spanish language signs everywhere. UK has issues with Islamic tension today already.

It is so fundamentally obvious that mass immigration from non-western cultures will produce non-westernized cultural changes, that otherwise wouldn't happen, that I have to just assume you are intentionally pretending not to understand that.


> The more people stand to lose, the more they fear losing it? shocking.

No - the less real exposure a person has to immigrants and their communities, the more dehumanizing anti-immigrant rhetoric has a chance to substitute for real experience.

> Southern border states are a lot more concerned with illegal crossings than anywhere else

Southern border states are also generally filled with a lot of people who actually know, from experience, that illegal border crossings and immigration are not the same thing.

> the southern border states having dual spanish language signs everywhere

The humanity! There will always be cultural diffusion along borders, no immigration policy is ever going to change that reality. The lives of people on either side are integrated in real tangible ways despite the lines on maps.

And the reverse is also true, of course. Mexico is filled with English speakers and it's quite easy to get around there without speaking a lick of Spanish. It's a great place to visit.

> Pretending that importing millions of foreigners will not affect the culture whatsoever is just a dumb or disingenuous argument

The argument is more that any predictions about the future of culture or efforts to steer it one way or another are mostly futile, and likely more inspired by ones prejudices and irrational fears.

Whatever it is that you are afraid of losing - you probably won't - or if you do, the immigrants probably weren't the ones who took it from you.

(It's actually way more likely that some piece of technology, maybe built by some people on this very site, will be the thing that kills your culture)


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I'm not white.

But will remain anonymous and are okay with the collateral damage. My suspicion is that competition makes you feel insecure. I was born and raised in SF, and I see this not only with immigrants but also from people who feel violated by migrants. There is a spectrum. It’s ugly, short sighted and unhelpful. It’s what it takes to make the valley, but people love pulling up ladders. At least, behind an alias, you’re will to acknowledge your shortcomings.

> But will remain anonymous and are okay with the collateral damage.

Have you worked at a tech company in 2026?

Plenty of engineers, born in India/China and working in Silicon Valley, are openly anti-immigration. And I also support them since I agree with them.

Pull up the ladder once you’ve made it.

Nothing new.


This is not X or blind. You created a new account just to post drivel?

> > Plenty of engineers, born in India/China and working in Silicon Valley, are openly anti-immigration

> This is not X or blind. You created a new account just to post drivel?

Tell me you don’t work at a tech company, without telling me you don’t work at a tech company


Tell me how bitter you are without telling me how bitter you are, anonymously.

You’ve let your bitterness infect your happiness and think no one can see you regurgitating your lack of self worth all over your shirt.

Can we agree these are actions of a coward, you’re attempting to label as democracy and that it accomplishes nothing because no one reading this has authority?


I would genuinely like to understand how you square this with the current president being known to leverage a lot of low/unskilled temporary workers visas.

If these weren't issued he would need to hire Americans?

Sources: https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2026-01-30/the-trump...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2025/06/12/trump-or...


This feels like one of those times where it is easy to vote for a policy when the effects are on a vaguer or populational level, but when you actually meet or make friends with someone affected it takes on an entirely new light.

I mean this is how gay marriage flipped, enough people got to know their homosexual friends, neighbors, or even family members and realized that the policy was hateful against someone they cared about and the stated harms were clearly rediculous when put in the context of that real person you know.


Personally I found Indians to be cloistered, two-faced and loose with the truth in my work.

Hey, if all it takes to get the government to hurt those immigrants is electing a narcissistic pedophile to the highest office of the land, then so be it.

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I'm a Canadian but I don't understand this sentiment towards Americans.

I think that citizens of a country should have a say in their policies without it being called "xenophobia". Could some vote for these policies because of "xenophobia" ? possibly but not all.

From what I've gathered, the primary reason Republicans won the election was because a portion of Americans felt unheard and the party gave them a voice.

I'm not obliged to like it but I feel like pushing people like the parent away is precisely why United States is caught in a quagmire right now.

Obviously, Canadians have a very different view than Americans regarding immigration but nonetheless, the will of people should be respected.


Trump won because of apathy. https://www.reddit.com/r/Infographics/comments/1gms8gb/the_2...

The critisism isnt about the policy on immigration. The critisim is about analogously giving a convicted felon a flamethrower to use on your house to get rid of unwanted bugs and thinking that its the right solution. All while also crying about small government all the time. That kind of thinking is pretty much on par for modern conservatives though.

The truth is llegal immigration in the sense of criminals coming here was never a problem. Most of the "illegal" immigrants were coming here by abusing the generous asylum system. And furthermore, they were coming here for work opportunity, not to leech from the system.

The border bill that Biden had in plan would have fixed that. Trump told Republicans to veto it because it would hurt his chances.


I stopped wearing my pixel watch as soon as fitbit air came out and I could put my real watch on again


Running Unbound on my gateway with a curated adblock list. Easy setup, network-wide ad blocking on every device / browser.


DNS based adblockers have strictly worse adblocking capabilities than manifest v3 adblockers. I mean, sure they have their uses (eg. blocking ads/telemetry in apps or whatever), but bringing them up in this context doesn't really make sense.


I'd rather have 100% of devices on my network have near 90% of all ads effectively ad blocked than deal with installing ad blockers on all possible clients. Sure, I use an ad blocker on my personal machine with firefox, but none of the phones besides mine does. None of the family that visits do. Barely any of my friends that come over do. None of the TVs and streaming devices and whatnot do. I am blocking more ads from ever reaching my network than the majority of people who only use browser based adblockers do.


I'm surprised to hear that it's so successful beyond banner ads. I figured most platforms would use the same domain for their ads as their content. I'm pretty sure YouTube and my "smart" TV do that. Plus I'd prefer to use DNS over HTTPS instead of using unencrypted DNS.


> Plus I'd prefer to use DNS over HTTPS instead of using unencrypted DNS.

Running unbound or a pi-hole on your network doesn't preclude that.

Your devices talks to the gateway/router/pi-hole on the network, who will then use your chosen DoH providers for upstream requests.


Unbound uses DoH as the upstream provider. So in theory all my DNS traffic leaving my home network is always via DoH


I thought the whole issue with manifest v3 is that prevented extensions from being able to block connections? That DNS blocking is actual blocking, while the extension can only do filtering after the connections are made.


>I thought the whole issue with manifest v3 is that prevented extensions from being able to block connections?

No. See:

https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/reference/api/d...

>The chrome.declarativeNetRequest API is used to block or modify network requests by specifying declarative rules. This lets extensions modify network requests without intercepting them and viewing their content, thus providing more privacy.


They can block, it just has to be declarative unlike before. It's better than DNS adblockers since you can still do content filtering, CSS/JS injections and whatnot.


Some ads (e.g. I know YT ads used to be this way, haven't looked recently) can't be blocked at the network level because they are served from the same domain/servers as the content.


Sure, but have YT Premium for the family. Don't know how anyone can use YT without it. And it blocks 90% of ads, the rest are tolerable / go mostly unnoticed.


>Don't know how anyone can use YT without it.

With an adblocker..

Why would you need yt premium with an adblocker?


I use uBlock Origin on my Windows, macOS, and Android versions of Firefox but I also pay for YT Premium. It means I can use the official YouTube client on my Android devices without ads. I get YouTube Music. The creators I watch get a share of my monthly fee.


The funniest part of this is that you're paying to still see 10% of the ads. I use Firefox and see 0% of the ads for free


Reading comprehension? I don't see any ads with YT premium. That's the whole point. Plus you get YTM. Great that FF works for you (I also use FF), but I, nor my family sees any ads on any of our PCs, Phones, TVs etc. YT premium is stupid cheap for what it provides.


I use a browser with a built-in blocker (Brave Origin) and I don't see ads in YouTube.


Same with ublock origin on firefox, been years since I've seen any ads. There was a period where they tried to break through the blocking and occasionally I'd see one, but it kinda seems like they gave up.


> Don't know how anyone can use YT without it.

It's easy, we use FF :-)


So do I. Now get YT without ads on everything that's not a PC


> So do I. Now get YT without ads on everything that's not a PC

I use FF on my phone, tablet and TV too :-/


You’re just saying that 90% of your internet usage is YouTube?


YouTube premium is one of the best subs you can buy if you watch a lot of YouTube. Plus you get Music.


YT Music would be be better if I did not have to double check every of its suggestion for AI generation. Some accounts to make their AI use public which is nice but there's no way to see their channel info in YT Music to look for that.


Cant say I've ever heard any AI generated music on YTM before


This probably depends on if you've used it enough to make some playlists and give it an idea of the real music that you like.


You can actually tap on the channel name and scroll down to see the About section (at least on iOS).

I never had genAI tracks being suggested on YouTube Music. Though it might be a factor that my account predates genAI music.


I use the web version and when clicking an artist's name I only see a description for well-known ones. Other channels don't show any description even though the YouTube side has one.

I assume one requirement for getting genAI tracks is being initially fine with hearing music from random channels and also hearing music produced after 2022; if one only cares (for example) about pre-2020 very well-known music they're probably going to be safe.


I regularly listen to recent music, but often tracks I explicitly search for, and autoplay based on those I “liked”. My “Liked Music” playlist has several thousand entries, so I suspect that heavily steers what I’m presented with.


Maybe another county should have developed, built out, and opened up the Internet themselves then?


Man I need to start using Grok more


Grok and its creator are unequivocally evil. Against protection of all but capital for the sake of enabling the oligarch class to further consolidate power ans abuse the working class.


Im not sure OpenAI or Anthropic are necessarily better? Or even opposed to this


unequivocally goes to far imo. The rockets are good and cool.


Rockets achieved by the engineers, not C-suite. The rockets would have been here under someone else too.


If that is true, why is SpaceX 5-10 years ahead of all its competitors?/why are Elon's companies #1 in all their industries (with the exception of xAI)?


In what industry is Tesla #1 in?


If you consider that they only make two models, and only electric, their relative performance relative to the rest of the automotive market is impressive.


Right. But that's not #1. It's a popular niche.


As I recall, Model Y was #1 best selling car at least once in the recent past. So by that measurement, they have led. In spite of Elmo's antics they remain competitive for that spot.


It's currently #2 behind the RAV4.

The claim was #1, not #2 though.

And, even with the #1 spot, that was 1 vehicle in a massive industry.


Is over-valuation an industry?


and less blowing-up


Probably, yeah, LOL!


I see his barely a year old "awkward hand gesture" or tuning into AfD's and Tommy Robinson's streams isn't enough of an evidence for some.


No amount of evidence can convince most to believe what they don't want to believe. At this point, all you really have to do is look at policy and behavior -- the rest should just be funny icing on a woefully funny cake.


They just cause pollution and largely avoid paying taxes.


What an opinionated take


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"Kids" aren't a parents property, they are their own individuals, that will, in time, make their own choice regarding their own body -- parental bigotry or not. A parent is a guardian that should enlighten and guide to the choices that would best serve the guided's goals, not the parent's. Edit: spelling, clarification.


Basing decisions on political bias instead of intelligence, a nice little distillation of the times.


I have actually really enjoyed it, my only complaint is grok build is closed source. They're all pretty left wing but from my experience Grok is the most neutral. This was really more of a test to see how willing the models were to take a stance on things, and all we know is gemini is the least likely to take a stance.


Workflow for what you described:

1. I go to your site 2. I download your service for my platform (that now has to be developed and shipped for N platforms your site wants to support 3. I install said service and make sure it's running 4. I go back to site and it's connected (or it's not and now you have to support a whole host of troubleshooting docs based on platform.

Web serial version that's now in Firefox and has been in chromium: 1. I go to your site. It works

What you described is something that has been done for awhile. Most recent thing I've used I can think of is Lenovos Driver install utility (you install their connector app, go to their support page, it connects to your app and then shows what drivers you need)


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