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The traffic cops greatly improve throughput.

Imagine how much gas would be saved if the city spent a little effort on the traffic lights.


How much gas would be saved by turning half of each 4-lane stroad into a bike lane! :)

There's a major arterial near my house. One day, the power went out in the area, and the traffic lights went dead. I discovered to my amusement that throughput on the arterial and its crossings increased dramatically, as drivers simply cooperated with each other.

There are already cameras on top of all the lights. How hard can it be to hook them up to AI that is instructed to maximize throughput? The current system will block 3 directions while having a green light on the 4th which has no traffic.

I once complained to a friend about this, and he told me that the traffic engineers were experts and I was lying. The next day I was driving on that road, and got a red light. You could see on down the distance 3 greens. There was no other traffic, and no cross traffic. So I sent him a photo. He conceded :-)


> How hard can it be to hook them up to AI that is instructed to maximize throughput? The current system will block 3 directions while having a green light on the 4th which has no traffic.

You don't need AI for that, you just need the system configured properly. Lights near my parents' house have been running cycles adapted to actual traffic for at least two decades, probably three... although using inductive loops in pavement rather than cameras.

There are reasons you might want a short green every so often even with no detected traffic... it would help manage worst case situations for a stuck open detector, etc. But those wasted greens shouldn't be long enough to notice. You might also have situations where locally suboptimal behaviors improves performance or safety elsewhere and that may lead to a better overall system results. I'm not claiming this is the situation in your scenario, but it can explain some negative experiences.


Red lights also regulate speed, although I don't know if they are intentionally de-optimized from green for this reason.

I used to work at a traffic signal controller company. We were under strict orders not to use AI. We did anyway, in a simulation, and let it optimize over the weekend. When we got back it had blown all of our previous attempts out of the water. We huddled around my coworker's workstation eager to see its masterful new pattern. It just made one phase red all the time and one phase green all the time, effectively closing one road. The throughput on the other road was through the roof though, since its light was always green. We did not present these results to the boss.

> There are already cameras on top of all the lights.

Those are infrared sensors that pick up the heat from car engines. They've had to be modified to pick up electric cars.

> How hard can it be to hook them up to AI that is instructed to maximize throughput?

The equipment cabinet at the intersection has been engineered to prevent all sorts of fatal things that happened in the past. Such as one set of relays being stuck so that one direction always gets a green light while the other direction gets red/yellow/green. They're designed so that can never happen again (when "broken", you'll see blinking red in all directions).

The controllers need to be standardized so that you don't need experts to be able to diagnose & repair them. They also need to be certified. It is not possible to certify an expert system (or as they're now called "AI") because it is not possible to use formal methods to prove correctness.

> The current system will block 3 directions while having a green light on the 4th which has no traffic.

That specific intersection is set on a timer. For a single, 2-lane each way, non-complicated intersection, it can cost $100k for the lights, poles, sensors and equipment cabinet. Every wire is underground in pipes so that the expansion of concrete in weather won't stretch/break the wires.

> as drivers simply cooperated with each other.

That's something that most people learn in kindergarten: "share with others" and "take turns".

Where I live (fly-over country), when the power is out, traffic backs up significantly.

Disclaimer: I used to work for my state's combination DMV & highway department.


> Those are infrared sensors that pick up the heat from car engines. They've had to be modified to pick up electric cars.

Do they pick up ICE motorcycles ? Electric motorcycles ?


Actual "Expert systems" could in principle get certified because they have explicable behaviour. The juice isn't worth the squeeze but it could be done. However the LLMs do not, we don't really know why this does anything even vaguely useful and we can't say if it might fail, or how we'd know. Useless.

I guess the main reason traffic lights exist is to avoid incidents, not necessarily to maximize throughput. Maximizing throughput is just a nice no have, and so no one bothers. Just a guess though, I've no idea what I'm talking about.

95% of books (and I'm being generous) are not worth the paper they are printed on, let alone the time spent reading them.

And then, there are the gems: War of the Worlds, and Lord of the Rings.


In fourth grade, I went to the library and noticed a book with a tripod on the cover blasting people with a heat ray. Of course I checked it out. I didn't know what scifi was at the time, and had never heard of HG Wells. Anyhow, I loved every word in the book, and devoured scifi ever since.

Another seminal book for me was Lord of the Rings, which I read in 6th grade.


There's a large black zig-zag blocking reading the text.

What I find off-putting is the emoji style used. They look like images you'd find in a first grade workbook, or on sticker sheets handed out to first graders. I quit using emojis on my phone because of that "playmobil" look.

I suspect this trend started with the yellow happy face. Barf.


I'm from America, and we do spspspsp.

All of a cat's senses and weapons face forward. It makes purfect sense to have its back protected from an attack from behind.

My cat always looked at me like "if only you were smaller..."

I'd be getting scared when a cat reaches the 20kg threshold. I'm about 90kg, so thats a 4.5x ratio :)

Cats are the perfect killing machines (apart from maybe sharks) :)


There's a bobcat that lives around here. He's on my porch now and then, and I also see its tracks in the snow.

It doesn't look like it wants to be petted. I stay clear.


Many people don't know that Craigslist has a "best of" which includes this (relevant) post that makes me laugh every time I read it:

https://www.craigslist.org/about/best/ric/6881185958.html


Yep, a bobcat. But much smaller than the one around here.

omg WHAT

Where do you find this?!!??! This is GOLD!


On the Craigslist homepage (on desktop) there is a gray navbar on the left side of the screen. That area has a calendar and some group of links below it. The second group of links below the calendar includes "best-of-craigslist" link.

https://www.craigslist.org/about/best/all

I like that the Craigslist site design is utilitarian and hasn't changed much over the years. The downside is that stuff like this can hide in plain sight.


Brillian! Thank you! I love Craigslist and am so glad that it's still around and hasn't been "modernized"

>"I'd be getting scared when a cat reaches the 20kg threshold" - most likely even 10kg cat will shred you before you could blink. They're insanely fast and surprisingly strong for size. Furry explosives they are

An angry cat in full fight mode will absolutely put a human in hospital, and the bites and scratches are teeming with potentially deadly bacteria.

They may be unique - a super-successful predator that has persuaded a more dominant species to look after it by looking cute and feeling soft and making relaxing noises.


my cat at its peak weight is about 8kg, and that's the size that i'd get a bit nervous around if i didn't know it's a tame housecat that runs away at sight of a mouse...

See also "why you should never put a chimp and a little person in the same room" by Penn Gillette

A tamed lion ripped the face off of Melanie Griffith.

I still need to watch that movie, I feel obligated to see it after so many people suffered so many injuries while filming it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roar_(film)#Injuries_and_set_d...


And you'd think Tippi Hedren would have learned not to go around wild, untamed animals after what her character wrnt through in The Birds!

I missed that connection!

I've watched a lot of horror shows that had no effect on me. But this one wasn't a horror show, it was for real. I found it very disturbing. I couldn't believe what I was watching.

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