Totally not a fan of the guy we have driving the bus right now, I didn’t vote for him, and oppose all war. But now that we’re in it, I’m a bit concerned that this is going to be quite a bit more violent and terrible than we have the stomach for?

I mentioned above I work with some Ukrainian refugees. We are not prepared mentally for what is coming.

You can make the (somewhat weak) case that Russia was provoked, but the first violent strike was made by Russia and Russia alone.

For a long time I wanted to believe you, and in the past I'd have looked at work camps in China and said "thats bad". Now i look at the US prison industry and go "Is it really that different?". The examples don't end there...

I'm an American and sometimes I'm not sure which is the "least evil game here." Like, the Iranians and Russians are pretty evil, the IRGC killed a lot of people last winter and I'm friends with quite a few Ukrainians. But then also we have the ongoing insanity with ICE and the Epstein files...

The way I see it right now, we have "The Epstein Alliance" versus "The Axis of A-holes." Nobody involved in this is great, but I would rather live in America or the EU than Russia, or Iran.

To be fair, as an American, I don't know enough about what life is actually like in China to form an educated opinion? But by the sounds of it, they suck too.

My intuition is that this whole charade will come crashing down over the next few years as AI starts replacing more and more jobs.

People are great, countries are pretty much all evil.

Up close everyone is great, far away, like from space, everything looks great. It's the middle distances that are problematic.

The ignorance of the American people enables this violence-- this is by design. William J. Casey, CIA director under Reagan, "We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false". The CIA has employed many hundreds of journalists working at major networks and newspapers like CBS, the Washington Post and the New York Times.

Reading the comments on this story, it appears that much of what Europeans believe is false, as well. Someone presented a detailed and accurate account of the recent* history leading up to the illegal, but absolutely provoked, Russian invasion of Ukraine but was accused of lying. Several comments indicate a complete lack of concern about provoking the nation with the largest nuclear stockpile in the world into a direct hot conflict. Even if it stayed conventional, which appears unlikely, Russia has a much larger military than all of Western Europe combined. Insane.

* The history should start much earlier, with US assurances to Russia that NATO would not expand, and then Clinton and all subsequent US administrations betraying these promises.

this vertigoruntime is brand new and his submissions absolutely dominate the front page recently https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=vertigoruntime

the about link https://vertigo.kuber.studio is obvious AI llm spam

Or is there a tradeoff?

Fewer ancient holes like this for their hackers but wide open access to anyone who installs codex or claude code?

However, from my point of view most targets are able to be compromised by poor configs, hygiene, well known and patchable vulns, or the more likely avenue: the humans operating the system.

I feel like I am walking around las vegas half the time.

Virtually every corner store has turned into those english sports betting pubs or whatever they have all over England.

It's disgusting.

We have those near me (US) now. I don’t even like seeing them. They’re kind of depressing.

... a betting shop, you mean?

just seems really odd / impossible for a brand new account to do that?

Edit: 16 total post and I have seen 5 in the top 10 on HN already.

Edit: No comments, only submissions; this should be a clear sig of some kind IMO.

Because they're enabled and suggested to do that in their coding harness.

This is not a serious article.

All of this "AI is going to kill us" marketing is just the frontier labs trying to pull the ladder up and stop trillions in VC paper from evaporating because a new papers and new ideas are destroying their moat literally as we speak.

He's definitely not 'pro SOTA' lab, he's kind of fighting against them.

That said, yes - it absolutely does play into the narrative.

They're lying through their teeth and they know it.

If they have those credentials you speak of, they should know better.

How do you know this?

> All of this "AI is going to kill us" marketing

The "marketing" this week came from someone that had given up their stake in OAI (Coxon), so I'm more inclined to believe them.

> pull the ladder up

From what I've seen (e.g., Dario's latest essay), AI safety registration proposals aim to target frontier labs whose models have reached a certain threshold. It doesn't seem like trying to pull up any ladder, just making sure the ladder doesn't go too high too fast.

If you can secure compute, there's a whole lot you can do as a US firm with this research and weights.

So it's a simple strategy:

1. Ban big players from entering market with METR breathing down their neck, which is controlled by Anthropic

2. Ban Chinese models so that small players can't do optimizations on them

That alone will dissuade many organizations from going anywhere near them.

If that doesn't work, there's a whole lot you can do - sanctions, hell, even war.

To your point, the war on drugs is a colossal failure which has achieved none of the objectives it set out to do. You can now order drugs from your mobile phone in any major city in the west and the purity is often higher and they deliver it to your door sometimes faster than Uber eats.

See also for example digital piracy where the entertainment industry has lobbied, cajoled and convinced many governments around the world to criminalize the distribution of their content over the internet for free.

What was the result? After 20 years of DMCA takedowns, countless celebrations that torrents were dead, and many other self congratulations in the media, you can now find 10 different pirate streaming websites where all the episodes of pretty much any show that was ever created are available for free in 5 five minutes flat and the image quality is as good as on your Netflix or Paramount account.

The only way such a ban of open weights model would work is if you were to replicate the great firewall of China in the US and in Europe and even that doesn't work completely.

As for sanctions, China and India are buying Russian oil in enormous quantities as we speak and they don't really care that Europe and the US have put sanctions on Russia and I suspect you will see the same results with models coming from China.

If a country has a choice to either use the expensive SOTA models approved by Washington or Europe only or using the cheaper and not so SOTA models, why would they use the US ones? Why would it be in there interest?

But it is the likely path US/EU is going to take if the voices of Dario, Sam, and Elon prevail. Because that's what governments know how to do, even if they know it doesn't work.

> If a country has a choice to either use the expensive SOTA models approved by Washington or Europe only or using the cheaper and not so SOTA models, why would they use the US ones?

Depends on which entities we're talking about.

An enterprise in Turkey: they would be afraid to use a US/EU sanctioned model because they have EU/EU clients and US/EU says they will put any enterprise in a nasty list, close their bank accounts, deals and agreements if they use a Chinese model.

A random guy in random country building something in their garage: would have to buy expensive hardware to run inference, because there's no inference provider on the open web serving these models, but China. And subscribing to these Chinese services is punishable by 20 years in jail without pardon.

I'm obviously talking about hypothetical scenarios here, but all I'm saying is that US can definitely make using any non-US-approved model effectively impossible.

Actually better, because Netflix and Paramount limit the availability of best quality video to a narrow set of devices and operating systems that may run on them, while torrents don't.

* Pull up the ladder (probably this)

* Gulf of Tonkin/Yellow Cake false flag premise for war (economic or kinetic)

* Fear of the big bad, space race we need public funding research grift AI Manhattan Project

Whenever there is fear pr0n or a national affront in the news, I assume another screw job is underway.

As linked in the original article - says 150 seeds to a few thousand depending on the apple variety.