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Without a vertically integrated environment, it's a race to the bottom.

I cannot recommend any non-Apple laptop these days. They are all total shit for run-of-the-mill consumers.

If you're tech inclined you can probably wipe and reinstall windows on a Lenovo thinkpad and come out _okay_, _maybe_.



Framework laptops are great if you need Windows/Linux, even if a bit more expensive


Dell business machines are great. I have had nothing but great luck with them.

They do not even come with much crapware. Most of what is there is from the base Windows OS.


Macs are still on a different level.

You can even wipe the entire SSD on a mac and STILL you have the ability to reinstall macOS without putting in any disc or USB stick. It's just always there waiting


This is almost correct. For the new Apple silicon machines you do need a second working Apple computer and cable in order to do a DFU if you completely wipe the SSD.

You can also waltz into an Apple store to have it done if you don’t have access to any other machines.


Framework.




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