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When fighting Nazis, it's quite valuable to be able to hear what they're saying and know where they're going.


Sounds like you are their biggest fans to care so much?


Wow, uh, not the level of discourse I expect out of HN.


Given how the opening was calling twitter a nazi app, there should be no surprise that the discourse is this unproductive and shitty


So first, there is at least some validity to calling it a nazi app. Elon Musk owns the app, and he gave a nazi salute during a speech for Trump's inauguration. People disagree about it but it is a well known and discussed thing, not a random insult.

While I think bgg2401's comment was wrong, it was at least interacting with the content in a respectful way. rvz in contrast, did not at all address the argument I made, and was the first comment in the chain to break the site guidelines. Breaking the site guidelines _should be surprising_. There's a reason they're there.


> So first, there is at least some validity to calling it a nazi app.

In your opinion.

> Elon Musk owns the app, and he gave a nazi salute during a speech for Trump's inauguration.

He dug himself in that hole through those bad optics, but that does not mean the entire app is a "Nazi app" that you are claiming since actual Nazi content (and accounts) get removed as soon as it is reported.

> rvz in contrast, did not at all address the argument I made, and was the first comment in the chain to break the site guidelines. Breaking the site guidelines _should be surprising_. There's a reason they're there.

You did not make an argument.

Not only you are diluting the word "Nazi" to become meaningless, you broke the guidelines via name-calling in the first place, and called everyone who uses the X app a Nazi. There are dedicated actual Nazi Mastodon instances in the fediverse, but that doesn't mean Mastodon is a Nazi platform.

But since you are looking for actual Nazis, you should look for them where they actually are many of them (Gab, 4chan, etc). Eventually you will find them.


It is: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/x-twitter-elon-mus... https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/11/x-whi... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67446797

My argument is roughly that knowing what your enemy is doing is value. As evidenced by, say, the Enigma machine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine

I don't think what I said in my first post is name-calling - I was addressing the point the parent commenter made, not saying anything about whether or not I thought the app was in fact a nazi app or not.


It is not. Even all the major chatbots (Claude Fable 5, ChatGPT 5.6 Sol, Gemini 3 Pro, Grok 4.5) disagree with your assessment and each of the articles when we are objectively talking about actual Nazi social media platforms.

It's absurd to label an entire platform that moderates on banning and censoring Nazi content as a Nazi platform. Even with Mastodon which has multiple active uncensored neo-Nazi instances with zero moderation, it does not mean Mastodon itself is a Nazi platform. Only those specific instances are.

What actually are objectively Nazi social platforms are: nationalist[.]s_ocial, Gab, 4chan, Terrogram, "Stormfront" and "Iron March".

So you should actually look there, since you said:

> My argument is roughly that knowing what your enemy is doing is value. As evidenced by, say, the Enigma machine.

It seems you are more obsessed with Nazis than everyone else here. I have now given you the places where to look for them and where the majority of those actual Nazis are hiding.




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